Tuesday, 19 October 2004 - 5:49 AM EDT

Whoa.
Well, I was going to ask your opinion, but apparently you've made that seriously clear. Translucent. Crystal, even.
Having been a catholic myself once, I understand where you're coming from. HOWEVER, if the catholic church weren't so staid and strict in there beliefs and dogma, we wouldn't have such great flicks as Dogma, or Oh God! You Devil, and we wouldn't be able to enjoy such believable conspiracies such as the Da Vinci Code. Wanna see something freaky? Check out www.odan.org and find a new meaning to the word zealotry.
Smoosheez,
Q

Tuesday, 19 October 2004 - 9:20 AM EDT

Hi Colonel,

Waddya sittin on the fence for, why don't you let us know how you really feel about God? Lol.

The 'Will to believe' certainly does its work well, don't you think. In spite of the most damning evidence to the contrary, our logical apparatus can always provide a seemingly good argument as to why our position concerning the existence of God is not unreasonable. This is usually based on a syllogistic kind of argument, of the kind, 'All human beings are mortal; I am a human being; therefore I am mortal. But the result depends on the reasonableness of the premises. In this case, 'All human beings are mortal' and 'I am a human being' are reasonable assumptions which no one in their right mind would challenge. But in the case of arguing for the existence of God, you will find the premises are always, without exception, very very dubious. To put it bluntly, logically speaking, if you start with shit, you end with shit. By all means let people believe in a God, but we should exhort them not to embarrass themselves by trying to argue the case. By definition it is inarguable. And as for this 'being' having omnipresence and omnipotence, what drug induced premises are they basing this on?

Tuesday, 19 October 2004 - 12:15 PM EDT

Do you want to know God's opinion of the church?...

Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

COME OUT OF HER!!! That is God's opinion of the modern church. It does NOT represent Him at all! He made it abundantly clear in Revelation 13 who He was talking about. Rev 13 clearly describes the Catholic Church (The Whore of Babylon) and all the "daughter churches" (Protestant denominations) that have sprung out of it.

SHOCK # 1: Jesus did NOT die on a cross. Jesus was crucified on a "stauros" (original Greek translation for straight upright post with no cross members). So where did the cross come from?

SHOCK # 2: The cross is an ancient Persian pagan fertility symbol...a graven image forbidden by the Bible. The Catholic Church adopted it in the 4th century to encourage pagans to enter the church. Then they added Jesus crucified on it to make it acceptable to the local congregation. The Protestants objected and removed Jesus from the cross.

SHOCK # 3: Why do we attend church on Sunday when God specifically states that Saturday is to be our day of rest? Again this was instituted by that Catholic Church and accepted by the Protestants. Forget the TEN COMMANDMENTS!!!? No way! God's word says otherwise:

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

SHOCK # 4: The Catholic church instituted a heirarchy with a Pastor at the head of the church. This is completely against what God teaches. God says that we are to follow after Him and not the counsels of man. A pastor's job is to tend the sheep.[period]. Today's pastors also preach, teach and some even lead worship; plus they handle the administration of the church. These duties were not sanctioned by God in any way shape or form. Thus pastors have set themselves up as an intermediary between God and His people. Christianity has become a spectator sport where stupid sheep praise God with their lips, clap their hands and wiggle their butts in church and believe that they are saved. Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Matthew 15:8
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.

This is totally unacceptable and against the teaching of the Bible that says the Holy Spirit will teach us ALL THINGS.

Today's Christian or Catholic church is NOT THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST as described in the Book of Acts. Today's believer is just as deceived and condemned as the devils who also believe. Is it no wonder that God does not respond to their cries for help?

2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Tuesday, 19 October 2004 - 3:12 PM EDT

Mustard,

Thanks for the rant. Sounds like you could use a drink. Would it be offensive if The Nut House offered a Sacramental Cocktail for the Excommunicating ceremony?

Chinquapin

Tuesday, 19 October 2004 - 6:56 PM EDT

Here is the thing about all religions and I am very familar with Catholics, Mormons, Baptist......If the world were perfect that all the things they say would be easy to do and accomplish, but the world is not black and white it is really a big ball of gray......so their beliefes are like square pegs in round holes. religious folks like to be told what to do so they do not have to think for themselves. They live in fear and the rules make them feel better....I my self believe that whatever is out there is pretty cool. Ity crated us and gave us this powere of crativity and humanity...I try to make the most of it and I strive to leave this world a better place when I leave and that is it.

Wednesday, 20 October 2004 - 1:40 PM EDT

Col,

Wow! I do believe that "someone" has "literally" pushed yer launch mode button! Having, made a conviction and forming an opinion over controversial matters, is merely a typical response.
However, when it comes to EXPRESSING that controversial opinion in such a convicted manner, well; I do believe that as being, divine!

Friday, 22 October 2004 - 10:32 PM EDT

*wholeheartedly agrees with the Mary comment*

Personally I believe that none of us don't really know what in the hell will happen when we die...God or whoever is too smart to really have people write a book and tell us about the afterlife....then we'd figure out a way to F that up just like we have our environment!!!

Tuesday, 26 October 2004 - 2:05 PM EDT

As a recovering Catholic, I really hear where you are coming from. It's pretty hard to even know where to start in criticizing that power and money mad organization. I guess spiritual peace is the best revenge. I've found the support and experience that I want in Buddhism and Unity. I believe that this world is more than just physical. But trying to define what exactly that might be for anybody else is insanity.